Lindsay Slipped ~ Oops

Is anyone here aware of the new effort against Lindsay Ashford? Petra Luna is calling for search engines to de-list Lindsay. (Hey Lindsay, here’s a clue…..they can). Petra went on KTRH Newsradio and was interviewed by Scott Braddock concerning this effort. You can listen to it HERE

Scott also interviewed Lindsay. You can listen to it at the same location….if you can stomach it. It was mostly just more of the same old nauseating drivel that emanates from the words and writings of this sick twisted sissy-man. But there were a few things from the interview that I wanted to make note of. Let’s start here:

Scott: Do you think that children who have any type of sex with adults grow up to be well adjusted?

Lindsay: I think that some do.

Scott: Do you know of any?

Lindsay: I know of people who had sexual encounters when they were elementary school age children.

Scott: And you think they’re alright?

Lindsay: I think they’re fine.

Let’s stop there and first look at his one-time partner Todd Nickerson. Todd was molested as a small boy, I believe it was a fondling episode. To this day he can’t come to terms with it. “Did the man care for me?” He still asks himself. Well, Todd, I’m sorry to say, that no, no the man did not care for you. He merely groped you, that’s what perverts do. When you go on one of your rants, when you’re confused and tormented by it…….you are asking the wrong people for advice when you go to GirlChat for answers. They are perverts! What do you expect? Perhaps you should try writing a survivor letter to your abuser instead.

As for Lindsay, he failed to tell Scott Braddock that he himself was molested by his babysitter when he was 4 years old. He failed to tell Scott about how he never told anyone, how it tormented him and he thought of it as a trauma, how screwed up it made him when he was going through puberty. He failed to tell Scott about his multiple suicide attempts and his bipolar disorder. His multiple hospitalizations in mental institutions and how he is still not alright to this very day. Yeah he left off that part. But, moving on….

Scott: So there should be no laws regarding people who for example do what most people consider to be molestation of children?

Lindsay: I think that there should be laws against any form of sexual contact which are obtained by force, coercion,manipulation or deception.

What? Lindsay agrees! There should be no deception! Then what do you call all that rubbish on your website, Lindsay? All those twisted and skewed academic articles? The twisting of Ken Lanning for example, and gosh darn even the DOJ report, you’ve screwed that up too! How do you explain the ethics behind manipulation of facts for the purpose of deceiving people, which is in turn to create some sort of change of opinion about you and yours?

How do you explain your actions? That’s not honesty…..so why would you feel people should take what you say seriously and believe you when you say that you wouldn’t harm a child under any circumstances when your entire website is a purposeful misrepresentation? Why should they believe you when you say that a child who was abused wasn’t really abused? Or when you say your website is not hosted in the Evil Empire then try to claim free speech protection under the American Constitution? Why should they trust you to be a fine, up-standing man when you post what you know to be a form letter from StC….which they rescinded…and you leave it there when they request it be removed and your sole purpose is to deceive people into believing that StC endorses you?

Why should they feel anything other than repugnance when they see you mock society….or children who were abused, or murdered? You are a walking, talking, breathing LIE, Lindsay Ashford. You are dishonest, unethical, calculating, malicious, and unconscionable. But there’s more:

Lindsay: I think that so long as there is consent and respect that children should be allowed to….

Scott: Do you think that a 5 year old grasps what’s going on well enough to be able to consent to sexual activity?

Lindsay: A 5 year old understands friendship. A 5 year old understands affection.

Scott: So can a 2 year old?

Lindsay: A 2 year old understands pleasure.

Scott: So they can consent to sex?

Lindsay: They can consent to pleasurable activity

Scott: Can a 6 month old do that?

Lindsay: I’m sure that 6 months old also have nerve endings and understanding and an understanding of what is pleasurable to them, yes

Scott: So a 6 month old can consent to sex

Lindsay: A 6 month old can consent to activity that it finds pleasurable

Scott: And so you don’t understand why you get death threats?

There you have it. A condensed version, but if you can bear it go listen to the entire thing. Let’s see what the girl chatters had to say about their hero

Hayaku: She should get the hell of the internet. The last frontier of free speech, and a very exciting one, and a bunch of mentally ill christofascist bitches with nothing better to do than make stupid petitions and complaints try and spoil it all.

albertross: lindsay – you hit every ball home – i could almost believe your interviewer was feeding you lines from a script – he was classic, and you walked him smack into every wall on the court. well played, sir – absolutely impeccable.

Was he listening to the same interview I was??

Elminster: You’re my fucking hero, dude! You have balls the size of Jupiter!

Student: Aside from being articulate, you have a delightful accent, man.

LOL, read more about that here.

“The Brits are really surprised when I say I’m
American, because my accent is really good, so
I’d say that I’m the second American who can pull it off.”

For the record, he’s from San Francisco and if you listen carefully you’ll hear him slip sometimes when he’s talking. Some things you can only fake for so long, in fact he did it in this interview.

Student: That 6-month-old baby he threw at you was uncalled for. I suppose he was just trying to trip you up and test you for consistency, but it certainly drove down the amount of rational thought going on in his listening audience, which was already pretty low. Lindsay, you have Balls of Titanium

Hierophant: I was almost in tears luaghing at the Texas radio host.

Trucker: TOOT TOOT!!! (NT)

Hayaku: More nutjobs that make no sense fighting us. Makes us look like the smart ones.

SUNDAYS AND CYBELE: cant wait for judgement day and the 2nd coming. BURN ANTI’S BURN!

Febri-chan: God bless puellula and Mr. Ashford until and beyond the end of the world!

Norbert: Who made a better case?

LOL I believe that was a rhetorical question.

By Land and Sea and Air

On horseback, steamboats and jets. The mail always gets through……….or does it?

For those of you who have been keeping up with the attempt by Perverted Justice to shut down Pedo sites you should be familiar with this. Read more HERE and HERE.

The pedofreaks don’t seem to want to go quietly into that good night. They believe they can get a court injunction to stop the closing of their pedo sites. They believe somehow, that they can FORCE someone to sell them a service which they don’t want to sell them. Go figure.

Well, naturally they need money for the attorneys, and naturally when they begged for donations and got lots of pledges, all those pledges have somehow not appeared….promptly. They’re a little bit worried now. They’re down to the wire. They need $20,000 pronto.

But ya know, thinking about this it just reminded me so much of something else. Remember the whole Save the Children fiasco? We wrote about it HERE and HERE. Also HERE, HERE and HERE

And thinking of that reminded me of THIS and all the pedo-anxiety they all experienced when they talked about making anonymous donations. They had so many suggestions concerning how to make donations while remaining SAFE, that you couldn’t help but chuckle. Some suggestions included:

Only send cash
Mail from another location
Wear surgical gloves
Don’t use lickable stamps….but if you do use a sponge and bottled water…
But wait! Can water residue be traced?

And Porcelain seems the most concerned

“Why would I worry about a cash donation via the US postal service… well most letters these days are given a tracking number very close to the mail box the letter is taken from, hence, a route, especially in less populated areas, would allow the all pervasive government to narrow a search down considerably.“

If they aren’t doing anything illegal, what the hell is wrong with them? Stick a check in the mail and be done with it already! But then that’s the Girl Chatters for you. Now we have the Boy Chatters trying desperately to get hold of some money. They don’t want their message board to go down, no, it’s almost like a lifeline for them. I mean heck, who else is going to tell them how wonderful they are? There’s just a weeeee little problem here.

Lot’s of eyes are on them.

They must be careful, you see.

One helpful pedofreak posted a a USPS chart with the length of time it takes the mail to arrive and the cost! Wow! How very helpful.

But when he referred those guys to the USPS website, and also instructed them to use a fake return address, perhaps he should have instead directed them to the Postal Inspectors website. You think? I guess in their pedo-hysteria they didn’t realize there are laws about such things. And that those laws are Federal. And that their donations just might not ever arrive. Ever.

Charitable Delusions

This blog has covered the on-going Save the Children fiasco within the paedophile community. If you are unaware of these events, here’s a brief history:

- Lindsay Ashford and Todd Nickerson gathered donations from the paedophile ‘girl lover’ community and made a donation to Save the Children in the name of ‘GirlLovers Alice Day’

- Save the Children clearly did not pick up on where the money was coming from and sent back a generic thank you note.

- Ashford proceeded to post the thank you note on his site, claiming We are glad that Save the Children, despite the prevailing antipathy against girllovers, has seen fit to accept our gifts and in so doing recognized our commitment to aiding the empoverished children of the world and enabled us to do so.

- A contributor to this blog alerted Save the Children to the situation and the donation was promptly returned.

This situation has caused great angst in the paedophile community. Members of this blog have suggested that paedophiles who want to donate to a charity should make the donation anonymously. This would help children (which they *say* is their real agenda) without causing respectable organizations to turn them away. This suggestion was met with great furor amongst paedophiles. But it seems that, of late, they’ve reconsidered. However, it’s also brought out the paranoid delusions that they’re so famous for:

Porcelain carries on like a raving lunatic:

I’ve thought about donating something, however, I am absolutely paranoid about leaving a paper trail anywhere, especially ‘credit cards’, given how many people have been assaulted because they submitted a credit card for access.

Are there ways to get donations that do not involve: Postal Services, especially the US Postal service, traceable bank transfers, included credit cards, etc.

I once read about using calling cards one can purchase most anywhere, however, if push came to shove, a calling card does have an identifiable amount of information that at least would place a user ’somewhere’ in the world, thus, for the paranoid, is to close for comfort.

Why would I worry about a cash donation via the US postal service… well most letters these days are given a tracking number very close to the mail box the letter is taken from, hence, a route, especially in less populated areas, would allow the all pervasive government to narrow a search down considerably.

Am I paranoid, you f–king bet. Some may pass it off as delusional, however, there are too many reports like the one that Taf-Kat posted, were someone has their house raided, because they just may ‘know’ someone who is suspect.

The news recently has had a number of revelations about how the government, using complient organzations, banking, communications providers, etc. where millions of transactions have been monitored in some way. Perhaps via automatic pattern recognition methods, but just the same, some pattern matches, you are survailed more closely.

But then once the truely anonymous donation has been sent off, how, really does one ‘know’ that the donation ever really reached the destination, other than say, for GC, when someone posts who has donated recently.

Even in big time organizations, there have been cases of fraud, misuse of funds, etc. and that is with yearly auditors checking the book

Demonsthenes advises:

Straight up cash isn’t trackable (unless you’re worried about them finding finger prints… so use gloves? :-p)… and just drop it in the mail when you’re on vacation (again.. if you’re paranoid about finger prints… use gloves :-p). Sure, they’ll be able to track it down to the general area that you mailed it from, but that won’t matter so much, will it?

Porcelain still isn’t convinced:

Paper is very absorbent of environmental elements… US currency is identified by the region it was issued from… licking the stamp or envelope leaves saliva, which can and will be used in a court of law…

When finding a needle in the haystacks, it is beneficial to know which haystack to look at… when finding a radio active needle, ie one that emits, again reducing the number of haystacks that have to be exhaustively searched is beneficial…

Paranoid… no just read the news…

Infinity furthers the advice given by Demosthenes:

Just buy a self-adhesive stamp (no licking)…and use TAPE to seal the envelope…and as Demo said you can mail it from ANOTHER place not near where you live. Wrap the cash in several pieces of paper…or put it in a card. There is just no way they can trace you if you take those precautions. If you were really that adamant about it all…buy a cheap pair of surgical gloves to do all of that, no finger prints. How safe if that?

For the record…most posters who donate to GC do all or most of these things…although some of them do mail them from the state they live…of course those envelopes are completely destroyed, so the danger is non-existent.

And Baldur elaborates even further:

. . . you can also get self-adhesive envelopes now, which do not require licking.

Even if you wish to use traditional stamps and envelopes, you can “lick” the stamp and flap with a wet sponge or a wet cloth. If you’re really concerned, use bottled water – though I have yet to hear of the authorities analysing the residue from tap water to deduce the source.

Right. A charity organization is going to raid your house for making an anonymous donation. Keep in mind that these are the guys who keep proclaiming that they’re not doing anything illegal. Makes you wonder what they’re so psychotically paranoid of someone finding.